It is currently Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:46 pm

All times are UTC - 6 hours [ DST ]




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 6 posts ] 
Author Message
 Post subject: [Un-EDH] Squirrels
PostPosted: Mon Jan 01, 2018 2:40 am 
Offline
Member

Joined: Feb 05, 2014
Posts: 1224
Location: Berk
Identity: Dragon
Happy 2018!!
For my New Years resolution I decided to buckle down and actually write out the Squirrel EDH deck that I've been bouncing around in my head.

It's a crying shame for me that Earl of Squirrel isn't legendary, but we'll see what we can do.

Rhys the Redeemed is the foremost token commander for this deck, but I'm hesitantly looking at Ghave as well because it gives me the last two Un-Squirrel cards: Squirrel-Powered Scheme and Snickering Squirrel as well as access to Conspiracy to turn more things into squirrels.

It's worth noting that with Conspiracy out Half-Squirrel, Half-Ordinary Pony goes infinite even with the power level errata since it can now blink itself (because it's no longer a horse).

I'm going to start with a g/w version, simply making note of interesting black cards I see, and then see how hard the swaps would be to make it abzan.

Squirrels (18)


Changelings (7)


Land(1+37 others)


Definite Wants/Needs (25)


Other Curiosities (23)


Dice Rolling and Contraptions(18+15 contraptions)


Anthems (10)


Black Spells (17)


Selesnya Squirrels V1

Commander (1)
1 x Rhys the Redeemed

Creatures (35)
1 x Adorable Kitten
1 x Chatter of the Squirrel
1 x Form of the Squirrel
1 x Squirrel Dealer

1 x Night Soil
1 x Steel Squirrel
1 x Vitu-Ghazi Guildmage

1 x Avian Changeling
1 x Mirror Entity
1 x Ordinary Pony
1 x Ramunap Excavator
1 x Riveting Rigger
1 x Squirrel Farm
1 x Squirrel Mob
1 x Squirrel Nest
1 x Twilight Drover

1 x Acorn Catapult
1 x Acorn Harvest
1 x Aerial Toastmaster
1 x Chameleon Colossus
1 x Chittering Doom
1 x Dr. Julius Jumblemorph
1 x Free-Range Chicken
1 x Hydradoodle
1 x Joyride Rigger
1 x Krosan Beast
1 x Liege of the Hollows
1 x Squirrel Wrangler
1 x Trostani, Selesnya's Voice

1 x Deranged Hermit
1 x Mother Kangaroo
1 x Mycoloth

1 x Earl of Squirrel
1 x Nut Collector

1 x Storm Herd

Non-Creatures (26)
1 x Half-Squirrel, Half-
1 x Sol Ring

1 x Druid's Call
1 x Earthcraft
1 x Krark's Other Thumb
1 x Life from the Loam
1 x Lobe Lobber
1 x Sundering Growth

1 x Mad Science Fair Project
1 x Rootborn Defenses
1 x Sword of Dungeons & Dragons

1 x Anointed Procession
1 x Blade of Selves
1 x Chord of Calling
1 x First Pick
1 x Growing Ranks
1 x Midlife Upgrade
1 x Parallel Lives
1 x Saproling Symbiosis
1 x Second Harvest

1 x Doubling Season
1 x Multi-Headed
1 x Parallel Evolution
1 x Primal Vigor

1 x Devout Invocation
1 x Hour of Reckoning

Lands(38)
1 x Swarmyard
18 x Forest
17 x Plains
I'll update the lands later

Contraption Deck (15)
1 x Boomflinger
1 x Gift Horse
1 x Gnomeball Machine
1 x Hard Hat Area
1 x Thud-for-Duds
1 x Widget Contraption
1 x Oaken Power Suit
1 x Faerie Aerie
1 x Goblin Slingshot
1 x Hypnotic Swirly Disc
1 x Optical Optimizer
1 x Pet Project
1 x Record Store
1 x Refibrillator
1 x Sundering Fork


CMC Curve
Creatures/Non-Creatures/Total
1-5/2/7
2-3/6/9
3-9/3/12
4-13/9/22
5-3/4/7
6-2/0/2
7-0/2/2
8-0/0/0
9-0/0/0
10-1/0/1

Avg-3.53/3.58/3.55

A little high, but not terrible.

The deck will want another pass through to add certain EDH necessary things like mana ramp, card draw, and removal, but at least I have the framework down. As always, comments are most welcome! ^_^


Like this post
Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: [Un-EDH] Squirrels
PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 10:53 pm 
Offline
Member

Joined: Feb 05, 2014
Posts: 1224
Location: Berk
Identity: Dragon
And now for the hard part: cutting cards to make room for the EDH necessities.
I love the composition of this deck and all the various different silly things it's trying to do, but that poses a problem. I have too many cards in the deck.
In thinking about this deck I've realized that I can take it in two directions:
1)Embrace the squirrels, cut the silly side angles that only help a few of the un-squirrels
2)Embrace the Un-Sanity, cut the weaker squirrels and leave the contraptions, host/augments, and dice rolling in

The 1) option will feel more like a typical Rhys deck, while 2) will probably turn into Ghave to grab the black squirrels and maybe one or two other cards (not that that helps with the card count).

Cuts to end up on version 1)


Cuts to end up on version 2)


Huh. That wasn't as painful as i thought it would be. I guess it really helps to focus the direction of the deck.
Now I just have to NOT ADD TOO MANY CARDS.
XD

Adds for version 1)


Adds for version 2)


GW Lands


Lands w/ B


That leaves us with the following two decklists:

Rhys' Squirrel Mob:


Ghave's Unstable Silliness


Both decks really could probably use another pass, but the Rhys one in particular I think I skewed too high on the curve and maybe too low on the creatures. I'll make a decision later, when I have the time to run the numbers. But for now I'm satisfied with the updates to both decks as significant improvements over the mess that was my first combined list.

As always, comments and suggestions are welcome. These decks are far from tuned. =p

Edit: Evaluated the stats on both the Rhys and Ghave decks. Rhys actually looks mostly fine. Just want to make one easy swap, otherwise I'm pretty comfortable ordering cards for that deck as is. Ghave, on the other hand could use a little more work.


Like this post
Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: [Un-EDH] Squirrels
PostPosted: Wed Jan 24, 2018 8:20 pm 
Offline
Member

Joined: Feb 05, 2014
Posts: 1224
Location: Berk
Identity: Dragon
Did some more thinking on what the decks are missing and decided to tweak the card selection a little more:

Add to Rhys:
Card draw:
Huatli, Radiant Champion
Shamanic Revelation

Spot Removal:
Ghost Quarter

Finishers:
Glare of Subdual
Throne of the God-Pharaoh

Out from Rhys:
Blade of Selves (only 11-12 creatures I'd be happy for it to be on in the deck)
Chameleon Colossus
Growing Ranks
Chord of Calling
Myriad Landscape

Rhys' Squirrel Mob:




Add to Ghave:
Card Draw:
Fecundity
Split Screen
Ineffable Blessing/Ineffable Blessing (a)/Ineffable Blessing (f) <- (a) is preferred, (f) is acceptable

Spot Removal:
Dust Bowl

Wipe:
Merciless Eviction
Slaying Mantis
Oddly Uneven

Utility:
Everythingamajig/Everythingamajig (e) <- aka the really good one
By Gnome Means

Out from Ghave:
Acorn Catapult
Trostani, Selesnya's Voice
Mycoloth
Storm Herd
Rootborn Defenses
Blade of Selves (only 10-11 creatures I'd be happy for it to be on in the deck)
Chord of Calling
Growing Ranks
Myriad Landscape


Ghave's Unstable Silliness


I'll find a home for Blade of Selves someday, but let's be real here: the token decks are probably not the place for it.

Both of these decks are now to the point where I just need to play test them. :)


Like this post
Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: [Un-EDH] Squirrels
PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 10:47 pm 
Offline
Member

Joined: Feb 05, 2014
Posts: 1224
Location: Berk
Identity: Dragon
Got some games in with Rhys last night and afterwards my friends gave me some input. Biggest conclusion is that I think I want some more card draw. More importantly though they talked me through some cuts.

Out:
1 x Reliquary Tower
1 x Druid's Call
1 x Life from the Loam
1 x Saproling Symbiosis
1 x Second Harvest
1 x Parallel Evolution
1 x Primal Vigor
1 x Zendikar Resurgent

In:
1 x Myriad Landscape
1 x Yavimaya Elder
1 x Ineffable Blessing (a)
1 x Krosan Tusker
1 x Nissa's Pilgrimage
1 x Abundance
1 x Shefet Monitor
1 x The Immortal Sun


Other Options:


Also, looking at my list some of the cards I had listed under my 6 drop non-creature slot are actually 5 drops.

Rhys' Squirrel Mob:


Tests with Ghave will have to wait until I don't have an opponent who seriously objects to silver bordered shenanigans (his problem was mostly with the dice rolling).


Like this post
Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: [Un-EDH] Squirrels
PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2018 7:15 pm 
Offline
Member

Joined: Feb 05, 2014
Posts: 1224
Location: Berk
Identity: Dragon
Finally got multiple reps in with Ghave.
The deck is much more mana hungry than I realized. Seriously, seriously mana hungry.
And if possible I'd like more cardflow and/or ways to positively interact with the contraption makers I do have.
Sitting on an Riveting Rigger with no artifacts to sac is sad times.

As for cuts to make this happen, I feel like the squirrel theme in Ghave is actually a little too strong, making the deck play a little too similarly to Rhys for my liking. So I'm going to cut some more of that.

Also, as I was still putting the final touches on actually deciding what cards to purchase (decks have been proxied until now) there was a buyout on Earthcraft making it much more expensive than I really want to pay for. The primary desire was for the combo with squirrel nest, but that's not enough to make me want to pay that much for it. The effect is still absurdly powerful in a token strategy though, but fortunately there's a budget version in Cryptolith Rite, which is what I will replace it with.

first crack


Thought about, but didn't make it in


a different approach?


I'll have to think on this one. I'll leave my ramblings here so I can reference it and maybe get input from others.


Like this post
Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: [Un-EDH] Squirrels
PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2018 3:52 pm 
Offline
Member

Joined: Feb 05, 2014
Posts: 1224
Location: Berk
Identity: Dragon
After sleeping on it and counting my non-contraption, non-host/augment dice rolling cards, I've come to terms with not having Conspiracy in my deck and come to the conclusion that I need all the dice rolling help I can get.
To that end I'd like to also add Inhumaniac and Big Boa Constrictor, but I don't know what to cut. :/
Oh, and since my squirrel theme is gone Swarmyard is out for Throne of the High City because I love the Monarch mechanic.
Another swap out is Hypnotic Swirly Disc because I don't have Krosan Beast anymore. Putting in Arms Depot because it synergizes with Ghave.

Here's the decklist as it stands:

Ghave


I could see one draw and one ramp piece coming out for the two dice rollers. I know I just put them in, but maybe.
I could see cutting any of Ineffible Blessing (f), because the lack of a "may" scares me with regards to the number of tokens I intend to make, Deathreap Ritual, because I have cheaper repeated card draw effects, or Fecundity, because it helps my opponents too (granted, presumably far less than me).
Then from the ramp package I could see cutting either Selfie Preservation to maximize the number of saccable artifacts I keep, or I could cut Fellwar Stone because its color fixing is less certain and keeping the preservation lets me have some ramp that doesn't die to artifact removal.

Edit: Actually, I'll keep both ramp cards and cut Slaying Mantis. Drops my curve, keeps my ramp, and mantis is questionable (if hilarious) removal anyway. And I've decided to cut Deathreap Ritual as it drops my curve. If I run into problems with the other card draw cards I can simply choose to change my swap.
Also want to swap out Optical Optimizer for Rapid Prototyper because I think I want some more larger critters. Losing cardflow out of the contraption deck is really only 1/15th of a card anyway and if I change my mind I can always swap back.


Like this post
Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 6 posts ] 

All times are UTC - 6 hours [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 4 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group