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Rogues - Color: Lead Designers: KFM, Co Designer TPmanW
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So the first batch of Rogues....

Ralma, Lady of Left Hook who inherited the tavern from her father.

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That land is busted. I would expect the activated ability's activation cost to be closer to Eye of Ugin (where the static ability is unfortunately op) or Inventors' Fair.

Haste is not in 's pie and doesn't look to be justified here. Plus, a 2/1 haste for a single is disgustingly good on its own. Like a better Goblin Guide in . Also, Genden should say "Whenever" instead of "When" and "Rogue" with a capital R.

The other two cards look reasonable, though Faylen should probably say "Put ... from your hand... ". I'm assuming that's the intention as it currently doesn't tell you where are you supposed to take the Rogue card from. Hopeful not from outside the game or anything like that.

The colors in general seem a bit weird as I would expect Rogues to be divided between the Grixis colors - so everything else than the Selesnya color pair.

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Yeah, Tavern is busted (compare Arch of Orazca, which is pretty playable), Genden is busted (come ooooon), and Rouges in this interpretation would be better as Nomads.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2018 6:43 am 
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Im not sure if Debt Collectors name fits so well, ideas?

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Uinolb is broken. Haste + Unblockable + random discard I would probably cost at something like 4 or 5. Being able to force a random discard by turn 2 can end the game right there if you get a land from their hand. Even then, just watching your hand get whittled away every turn that early in the game is simply not fun to play against. And that's all assuming you only have 1 in your hand. Many decks would concede against a resolved Uinolb on turn 2. If you dropped another on turn 3, I would probably punch my opponent in the face before conceding.

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Uinolb is broken. Haste + Unblockable + random discard I would probably cost at something like 4 or 5. Being able to force a random discard by turn 2 can end the game right there if you get a land from their hand. Even then, just watching your hand get whittled away every turn that early in the game is simply not fun to play against. And that's all assuming you only have 1 in your hand. Many decks would concede against a resolved Uinolb on turn 2. If you dropped another on turn 3, I would probably punch my opponent in the face before conceding.


My Mistake, was meant to be legendary. Should it rather be just discard a card? Or remove it all together?

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Ralma's too powerful. If you have Ralma and Genden on the field together, you're opponent's toast.

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Ralma shouldn't give Hexproof to herself. That's all the fix she needs.

Uinolb is unplayable. Give him Menace and make his discard random - and it'll be powerful, but not broken (still a 3 mana 2 colored legendary 1/1.)

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Would anyone be interested to doing a other class guilds so at the end, we could make a set out of them?

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Hall of Champions
Legendary Land
~ enters the battlefield tapped.
Whenever a knight you control attacks, untap ~ and put a valor counter on it.
T: Add W or R.
T, Remove 10 valor counters from ~: Creatures you control are indestructible and get +5/+5, trample, and vigilance until end of turn.

its a place with a bunch of knights

Rohan, Knight Captain - 4WR
Legendary Creature - Elf Knight
~ is indestructible as long as you control another knight.
Knights you control get +3/+3
When ~ enters the battlefield, create three 1/1 white knight creature tokens.
"founder of the hall, a beacon of authority and virtue for all fledgelings"
3/4

he's the leader of the knights and is an alright guy probably

Cecilia, Eternal Pilgrim - WR
Legendary Creature - Human Knight
Vigilance, First Strike
Whenever ~ attacks, ~ gets +1/+0 until end of turn for each other attacking knight.
Whenever ~ deals combat damage to a player, you may put a +1/+1 counter on ~.
"A journey started in solidarity, and continued in unity"
2/1

She's something like a living saint to a lot of knights and otherwise youths and journeyers. She goes around doing cool stuff.

Archibald of Tempest - RR
Legendary Creature - Orc Knight
Haste
Whenever you cast a knight spell, ~ gains double strike until end of turn.
W: ~ gets +1/+1 until end of turn.
"His prowess with the longsword is matched only in legends"
2/2

he's just famous for his technique but is otherwise a pretty brash person

True Valor - W
Instant - Knight
Put a +1/+1 counter on target creature. If that creature is a knight, it also gets +2/+2 until end of turn.
"A knights righteousness must be indomitable"

Knight's Anthem - WR
Enchantment - Knight
Creatures you control get +1/+1
Sacrifice ~: Knights you control get +1/+1 and are indestructible until end of turn.
"Every knight carries the legends and the hearts of the knights of generations past with them into battle"

Aurealius, Aspiring Chronicler - W
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Whenever another knight enters the battlefield under your control, put a +1/+1 counter on it and a verse counter on ~.
Remove 3 verse counters from ~: Search your library for a knight card, reveal it, and put it into your hand.
"As blood is what drives a knight, legends are what drives the order" -holy scrolls
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he is a young person who likes knights and wanted to be one but has a crippled body and so he tells stories instead and that is a pretty valuable function too

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Getaway Man
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TPmanW wrote:
Getaway Man
Creature - Human Rogue
, Sacrifice ~: Return target creature you control to its owner's hand.
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Back Alley Broker
Creature - Goblin Rogue
At the beginning of your end step, if a Rogue you control dealt combat damage to a player, create a colorless artifact token named Gold. It has "Sacrifice this artifact: Add one mana of any color."
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Hall of Champions
Legendary Land
~ enters the battlefield tapped.
Whenever a knight you control attacks, untap ~ and put a valor counter on it.
T: Add W or R.
T, Remove 10 valor counters from ~: Creatures you control are indestructible and get +5/+5, trample, and vigilance until end of turn.
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its a place with a bunch of knights

Rohan, Knight Captain - 4WR
Legendary Creature - Elf Knight
~ is indestructible as long as you control another knight.
Knights you control get +3/+3
When ~ enters the battlefield, create three 1/1 white knight creature tokens.
"founder of the hall, a beacon of authority and virtue for all fledgelings"
3/4
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he's the leader of the knights and is an alright guy probably

Cecilia, Eternal Pilgrim - WR
Legendary Creature - Human Knight
Vigilance, First Strike
Whenever ~ attacks, ~ gets +1/+0 until end of turn for each other attacking knight.
Whenever ~ deals combat damage to a player, you may put a +1/+1 counter on ~.
"A journey started in solidarity, and continued in unity"
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She's something like a living saint to a lot of knights and otherwise youths and journeyers. She goes around doing cool stuff.

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Archibald of Tempest - RR
Legendary Creature - Orc Knight
Haste
Whenever you cast a knight spell, ~ gains double strike until end of turn.
W: ~ gets +1/+1 until end of turn.
"His prowess with the longsword is matched only in legends"
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he's just famous for his technique but is otherwise a pretty brash person

True Valor - W
Instant - Knight
Put a +1/+1 counter on target creature. If that creature is a knight, it also gets +2/+2 until end of turn.
"A knights righteousness must be indomitable"

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Knight's Anthem - WR
Enchantment - Knight
Creatures you control get +1/+1
Sacrifice ~: Knights you control get +1/+1 and are indestructible until end of turn.
"Every knight carries the legends and the hearts of the knights of generations past with them into battle"
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Aurealius, Aspiring Chronicler - W
Legendary Creature - Human Knight
Whenever another knight enters the battlefield under your control, put a +1/+1 counter on it and a verse counter on ~.
Remove 3 verse counters from ~: Search your library for a knight card, reveal it, and put it into your hand.
"As blood is what drives a knight, legends are what drives the order" -holy scrolls
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Ragnarokio wrote:
Hall of Champions
Legendary Land
~ enters the battlefield tapped.
Whenever a knight you control attacks, untap ~ and put a valor counter on it.
T: Add W or R.
T, Remove 10 valor counters from ~: Creatures you control are indestructible and get +5/+5, trample, and vigilance until end of turn.

its a place with a bunch of knights

Rohan, Knight Captain - 4WR
Legendary Creature - Elf Knight
~ is indestructible as long as you control another knight.
Knights you control get +3/+3
When ~ enters the battlefield, create three 1/1 white knight creature tokens.
"founder of the hall, a beacon of authority and virtue for all fledgelings"
3/4

he's the leader of the knights and is an alright guy probably

Cecilia, Eternal Pilgrim - WR
Legendary Creature - Human Knight
Vigilance, First Strike
Whenever ~ attacks, ~ gets +1/+0 until end of turn for each other attacking knight.
Whenever ~ deals combat damage to a player, you may put a +1/+1 counter on ~.
"A journey started in solidarity, and continued in unity"
2/1

She's something like a living saint to a lot of knights and otherwise youths and journeyers. She goes around doing cool stuff.

Archibald of Tempest - RR
Legendary Creature - Orc Knight
Haste
Whenever you cast a knight spell, ~ gains double strike until end of turn.
W: ~ gets +1/+1 until end of turn.
"His prowess with the longsword is matched only in legends"
2/2

he's just famous for his technique but is otherwise a pretty brash person

True Valor - W
Instant - Knight
Put a +1/+1 counter on target creature. If that creature is a knight, it also gets +2/+2 until end of turn.
"A knights righteousness must be indomitable"

Knight's Anthem - WR
Enchantment - Knight
Creatures you control get +1/+1
Sacrifice ~: Knights you control get +1/+1 and are indestructible until end of turn.
"Every knight carries the legends and the hearts of the knights of generations past with them into battle"

Aurealius, Aspiring Chronicler - W
Legendary Creature - Human Knight
Whenever another knight enters the battlefield under your control, put a +1/+1 counter on it and a verse counter on ~.
Remove 3 verse counters from ~: Search your library for a knight card, reveal it, and put it into your hand.
"As blood is what drives a knight, legends are what drives the order" -holy scrolls
1/1

he is a young person who likes knights and wanted to be one but has a crippled body and so he tells stories instead and that is a pretty valuable function too


I've got to be honest: I think that putting verse counters on CREATURES is a bad idea. Here's what I'd do with Aurealius: I'd use +1/+1 counters instead of verse counters, but I'd give him defender to keep the crippled flavor.

Archibald of Tempest may be too powerful, even for a legend. Mechanically, he's basically a Shade, and Shades aren't cost that aggressively. Also, mechanically, he feels like neither an Orc (no drawback) nor a Knight.

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If there's an unclaimed class by this time tomorrow (just after noon Pacific, 3 Eastern on July 7), I call WGB Farmers.

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