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Author:  ParadOxymoron [ Sat Jan 24, 2015 10:46 pm ]
Post subject:  Parad's Ponderings

Blur
Instant (U)
Turn target nontoken creature face-down. (It's a 2/2 creature.)
"You misunderstand me. When I say they will erase your identity if they capture you, I don't just mean that you will no longer be able to remember who you are. I also mean that no one will ever be able to recognize you again."
—Qil'dari, to Skorinoth


I'm interested in this card's power level. It's certainly better than Pongify/Rapid Hybridization, not only because it leaves the creature's controller with a 2/2 rather than a 3/3, but also because it doesn't trigger any death or ETB triggers. But I don't think either of those cards ever saw any tournament play, and this has a certain elegance that they lack. Anyway, I think it would be effectively unplayable at . Do you guys think it's too powerful?

Author:  Fallingman [ Sat Jan 24, 2015 10:53 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Blur

I'm not sure if the effect is better or worse than Reality Shift. The fact that it doesn't remove auras or equipment makes it worse in some scenarios, but it's also much easier to throw it at an attacking or blocking creature and get it killed in combat by a superior creature. I think a lot depends on what else in the set cares about face down creatures.

Author:  ParadOxymoron [ Mon Jan 26, 2015 2:58 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Blur

Fallingman wrote:

You know, it was actually me thinking about Fate Reforged that inspired this card, and I skimmed the spoiler to make sure it hadn't already been made, but apparently I glazed right over the relevant card. That's certainly a more apt comparison, and I hadn't thought about attachments sticking to the creature or not. Ultimately, I like my card more, and I think it has something at 1 CMC that it just wouldn't have at 2. It's a shame that the "1C is too little and 2C is too much… How about CC?" trick doesn't work between C and 1C.

Seeker of Apotheosis
Creature — Human Cleric (M)
Lifelink
When Seeker of Apotheosis dies, exile it.
Whenever you gain life, if Seeker of Apotheosis is in exile, put an ascension counter on it. Then, if it has seven or more ascension counters on it, return it to the battlefield as a God with base power and toughness 20/20.
As long as Seeker of Apotheosis is a God, it has flying and indestructible.
1/1

Author:  Dudibus [ Mon Jan 26, 2015 4:02 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The Products of Parad's Peculiar Perceptions

Talk about telling a story with a card! Where's my flavor text?! Needs.the.text.of.flavor.
There is a ton of design space here. Maybe not an entire set, but a sub theme for sure.

Author:  ParadOxymoron [ Tue Jan 27, 2015 12:58 am ]
Post subject:  Re: The Products of Parad's Peculiar Perceptions

Dudibus wrote:
Talk about telling a story with a card! Where's my flavor text?! Needs.the.text.of.flavor.

I tend to feel that if a card does such a good job of telling a story with a rules text, it needn't (and maybe oughtn't) have flavor text anyway. But since you insist:

They all had laughed when he spoke of heaven. Now, he looked down on them from it.

Quote:
There is a ton of design space here. Maybe not an entire set, but a sub theme for sure.

It's funny you should say that! I actually first came up with this for the 6th qualifying round of the YMtC Pro Tour (that was your best criteria of the whole thing imho btw, razor), but then I saw that AzureShade had pretty much already done the same thing, except with Spirits instead of Gods. So, from its inception, this general mechanic has been imagined with an entire set of apotheosis-based themes surrounding it. Ever since God became a creature type, the idea of a more-flavorful, more-Timmytastic Serra Ascendant has been kicking around in my head. I'm glad you like it!

I'm having trouble thinking of where I would go after that one card, though… Divinity counters would probably go really well in a Titanomachy-themed set. But when everything is a god, none of them are special, so there'd have to be a bunch of mortals, too… and what can I do flavorfully in a set with gods and mortals that Theros hasn't already done better?

Author:  dtolle [ Tue Jan 27, 2015 1:33 am ]
Post subject:  Re: The Products of Parad's Peculiar Perceptions

Design a set chronicling Gods in their home realm. So everything is essentially mythic. Then you can have a follow up set with the mortals, having lots of references to their "myths" which are the stories presented in the first set. Or do it the other way around, with the mortals first.

Author:  POSValkir [ Tue Jan 27, 2015 3:47 am ]
Post subject:  Re: The Products of Parad's Peculiar Perceptions

The difference between Blur and Reality Shift is that Blur is the combo piece I'm looking for...

Author:  ParadOxymoron [ Fri Jan 30, 2015 5:09 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The Products of Parad's Peculiar Perceptions

Astral Abolishment
Instant (U)
Exile target creature or spell.
"The three Baymen took note that the cloud wall agitated about two miles in the distance. It thundered, churned, flowed, boiled, crackled, screamed, and sang—a rapids set perfectly on edge."
—Mark Helprin,
Winter's Tale

Author:  LilyStorm [ Fri Jan 30, 2015 5:24 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The Products of Parad's Peculiar Perceptions

I was convinced this existed already, but looks like it doesn't. Well done!

Author:  dtolle [ Fri Jan 30, 2015 7:19 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The Products of Parad's Peculiar Perceptions

LilyStorm wrote:
I was convinced this existed already, but looks like it doesn't. Well done!

You were probably thinking of Venser, Shaper Savant.

Author:  LilyStorm [ Fri Jan 30, 2015 9:21 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The Products of Parad's Peculiar Perceptions

dtolle wrote:
LilyStorm wrote:
I was convinced this existed already, but looks like it doesn't. Well done!

You were probably thinking of Venser, Shaper Savant.


Not even close.

Author:  dtolle [ Fri Jan 30, 2015 11:04 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The Products of Parad's Peculiar Perceptions

Its the only thing I know of that references spells and permanents.

Author:  ParadOxymoron [ Sat Jan 31, 2015 12:00 am ]
Post subject:  Re: The Products of Parad's Peculiar Perceptions

Some super-personal **** I'm compelled to share with you guys

Author:  ty [ Sat Jan 31, 2015 12:03 am ]
Post subject:  Re: The Products of Parad's Peculiar Perceptions

Thanks for sharing, Parad. Glad you're doing better now. :)

Author:  dtolle [ Sat Jan 31, 2015 12:57 am ]
Post subject:  Re: The Products of Parad's Peculiar Perceptions

That's is some heavy stuff. I'm sorry to hear that your December was so rough. Hope you're 2015 goes a little smoother.

Author:  LilyStorm [ Sat Jan 31, 2015 3:34 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The Products of Parad's Peculiar Perceptions

Fascinating the line between religion and psychosis.

Author:  ParadOxymoron [ Sat Jan 31, 2015 4:01 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The Products of Parad's Peculiar Perceptions

LilyStorm wrote:
Fascinating the line between religion and psychosis.

You're telling me! I actually quoted the 8th Edition flavor text of Inspiration at them in order to defend myself. I still stand by the veracity of the quote (Madness and genius are separated only by degrees of success), but I've learned that it can definitely be a very dangerous line of thinking. (Because it's a slippery slope from "if only people believed me, there'd be no problem" to "maybe they're the ones who're crazy! they just aren't prepared for my level of brilliance!" to "is it my madness and despair that makes me brilliant? how am I supposed to be creative without delving into the unknowable? and what could be more unknowable than what happens after death?" And anyway, it directly correlates with the bandwagon fallacy, so despite the sense it might start to make from a purely philosophical standpoint, from a psychological one, it just doesn't hold true.)

Author:  LilyStorm [ Sat Jan 31, 2015 4:12 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The Products of Parad's Peculiar Perceptions

Yeah I personally beleive some pretty unusual things but they don't effect my normal life yet, so I guess that's the main difference. Then again...monks and stuff. But I digress. Go make some cool cards.

Author:  dtolle [ Sat Jan 31, 2015 4:20 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The Products of Parad's Peculiar Perceptions

LilyStorm wrote:
Yeah I personally beleive some pretty unusual things but they don't effect my normal life yet, so I guess that's the main difference. Then again...monks and stuff. But I digress. Go make some cool cards.

You say monks and stuff.... Now I have this picture of a monastery where the monks ponder card design...

Author:  LilyStorm [ Sat Jan 31, 2015 4:23 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The Products of Parad's Peculiar Perceptions

That's called ty

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