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 Post subject: White Weenie-ish
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Fellas,

Took all my wildcards and crafted this deck to grind through the dailies. So far it does what it is supposed to do...win or lose quick.

4 Ajani's Pridemate (M19) 5
4 Moment of Triumph (RIX) 15
4 Resplendent Angel (M19) 34
2 Leonin Warleader (M19) 23
4 Leonin Vanguard (M19) 22
4 Haazda Marshal (GRN) 13
4 Healer's Hawk (GRN) 14
4 Skymarcher Aspirant (RIX) 21
4 Silverbeak Griffin (M19) 285
4 Benalish Marshal (DAR) 6
22 Plains (RIX) 192

Lots of flying, lots of lifelink...not a huge amount of wildcards. I think 6 rares and 4 mythics. If I had more rares I would add Legionaire's Landing and if I had more Mythics I would add some History of Benalish. But, for minimal investment it is quite a nice deck.

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I was thinking of brewing a deck along those lines too, but just haven't gotten around to it yet.
I'll post my list and my thoughts when I do. But congrats for beating me to it kryder. :)
A card that could be good in a deck with so much lifelink is Famished Paladin, which can be a pseudo vigilant creature that can block well against 2/2s and 2/3s.

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 Post subject: Re: White Weenie-ish
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I was thinking of brewing a deck along those lines too, but just haven't gotten around to it yet.
I'll post my list and my thoughts when I do. But congrats for beating me to it kryder. :)
A card that could be good in a deck with so much lifelink is Famished Paladin, which can be a pseudo vigilant creature that can block well against 2/2s and 2/3s.


I have close to 30 games with this deck...blocking isn't what this deck does.

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 Post subject: Re: White Weenie-ish
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Deck update...

4 Ajani's Pridemate (M19) 5
4 Moment of Triumph (RIX) 15
4 Resplendent Angel (M19) 34
4 Leonin Vanguard (M19) 22
4 Haazda Marshal (GRN) 13
4 Healer's Hawk (GRN) 14
4 Skymarcher Aspirant (RIX) 21
4 Silverbeak Griffin (M19) 285
4 Benalish Marshal (DAR) 6
21 Plains (RIX) 192
3 Conclave Tribunal (GRN) 6

Removed the Leonin Warleaders and a Plains for 3 Conclave Tribunal. The Warleaders have been cast in 5 out of 40 games now and were decisive in victory exactly once. Most games I can't even cast him anyway before I win. The Tribunal is great for removing whatever and are exceptionally easy to cast in this deck.

Moment of Triumph has been an all-star in this deck. I keep looking to replace it with Conquerer's Pride but the lifelink works well with both the Angel and Ajani's Pridemate.

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 Post subject: Re: White Weenie-ish
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I need to autocard here to see why you made that swap. Warleaders are great cards in a lifegaining deck so let's see here.....
Conclave Tribunal.
.... I don't know. I'm a little on the fence here. I see you want a little removal but at the expense of what should be a key card in the deck?
Don't know about that. What you first built is where I was leaning for a grinder also. I've had great success with the white precon Tactical Advantage and playing it has reminded me how muck I like playing white decks some times. I haven't built a pure white since I started playing Arena.

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 Post subject: Re: White Weenie-ish
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Yes!!!!!
A coup toward building this. Haven't played a lot so I'm just now getting my first dual colored precon and it's Orzhov!
3 Pridemates, a Warleader and another Resplendant!
Getting closer to being able to test run and maybe modify and keep this deck.

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 Post subject: Re: White Weenie-ish
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Well, it's official, mono-white is the new mono-red. Just went 7-0 in a constructed event and man does this deck kick-ass. Pulled off some wins I shouldn't have won, with double pride of conquerors and also managed to make some incredible comebacks (especially the last game where I was stuck at 2 land forever).

So this is my list:

Lands (22)
22 x Plains

CMC 1 (16)
4 x Healer's Hawk
4 x Legion's Landing
4 x Leonin Vanguard
2 x Haazda Marshal
2 x Skymarcher Aspirant

CMC 2 (10)
4 x Pride of Conquerors
4 x Ajani's Pridemate
2 x Famished Paladin

CMC 3 (8)
4 x Benalish Marshal
4 x History of Benalia

CMC 4 (4)
1 x Ajani, Adversary of Tyrants
1 x Leonin Warleader
2 x Conclave Tribunal


Not far from kryder's list., Although his latest list has gone more flying based than mine.
I also felt the need for a couple of removal spells and conclave tribunal is huge! I can definitely get behind adding another.
Famished paladins have been consistent and are knights which came in useful with the histories.
Pride of conquerors is such a blowout card... It just does 20+ damage or clears opponent's board all too often.

I think this is T1 material. Could use some tweaks, but I think it's just more consistent than boros and lots of fun.

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I need to autocard here to see why you made that swap. Warleaders are great cards in a lifegaining deck so let's see here.....
Conclave Tribunal.
.... I don't know. I'm a little on the fence here. I see you want a little removal but at the expense of what should be a key card in the deck?
Don't know about that. What you first built is where I was leaning for a grinder also. I've had great success with the white precon Tactical Advantage and playing it has reminded me how muck I like playing white decks some times. I haven't built a pure white since I started playing Arena.


I said it just above it...I cast the Warleader's in 5 out of 40 games and it was only decisive in winning one of those. I probably would have still won that game without him, he just put it a turn closer to the end. Most of your lifelink is incidental and in the lower-costed cards.

So, instead of a creature that hasn't been good in the grinder deck, I replaced it with a flexible answer card. Fairly easy to cast with almost no mana, removes the biggest threats to the deck attacking (big flyers, opposing lifelinkers, possibly a planeswalker though I just usually ignore those). I would like to get one more Tribunal in here but it probably isn't necessary. So, they deck runs a bunch of commons, uncommons, 4 rares and 4 mythics...can't really complain about that.

I think mono-G is still better...Pelt Collector is just nuts...but it requires a few more rares and a couple of mythics to make it run like a boss. I'll have that up and running in a fashion probably next weekend.

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Haven_pt wrote:
Well, it's official, mono-white is the new mono-red. Just went 7-0 in a constructed event and man does this deck kick-ass. Pulled off some wins I shouldn't have won, with double pride of conquerors and also managed to make some incredible comebacks (especially the last game where I was stuck at 2 land forever).

So this is my list:

Lands (22)
22 x Plains

CMC 1 (16)
4 x Healer's Hawk
4 x Legion's Landing
4 x Leonin Vanguard
2 x Haazda Marshal
2 x Skymarcher Aspirant

CMC 2 (10)
4 x Pride of Conquerors
4 x Ajani's Pridemate
2 x Famished Paladin

CMC 3 (8)
4 x Benalish Marshal
4 x History of Benalia

CMC 4 (4)
1 x Ajani, Adversary of Tyrants
1 x Leonin Warleader
2 x Conclave Tribunal


Not far from kryder's list., Although his latest list has gone more flying based than mine.
I also felt the need for a couple of removal spells and conclave tribunal is huge! I can definitely get behind adding another.
Famished paladins have been consistent and are knights which came in useful with the histories.
Pride of conquerors is such a blowout card... It just does 20+ damage or clears opponent's board all too often.

I think this is T1 material. Could use some tweaks, but I think it's just more consistent than boros and lots of fun.

Enjoy!


Your list looks better to survive a sweeper than mine does and looks to want to hit midgame more than mine ever does.

Moment of Triumph has been such a blowout everytime I've played it...I'd like to put in Pride of Conqueror's but the extra mana cost keeps me from it. That and the lack of wildcards.

When I get around to doing a boros list I'll use some Mythic WCs for the History of Benalia...but that also requires rares for the lands so it will be a few weeks at least. Funny thing is I think the game is trying to push me towards control...I've gotten 3 Ritual of Soot over the weekend.

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I actually got my fifth history of benalia in the GW starter deck and opened a sixth in a pack... Damn RNG!

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I really like these White decks, I think that will be the next deck I try when I have some of the rares.

Quick question though, why Conclave over Binding? I am guessing it is a mana issue at 22 land? What permanents are most problem some for your deck? Guessing big creatures mainly?

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I actually got my fifth history of benalia in the GW starter deck and opened a sixth in a pack... Damn RNG!

Same here... one Benalia and 2 shock lands.... :cry:

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I really like these White decks, I think that will be the next deck I try when I have some of the rares.

Quick question though, why Conclave over Binding? I am guessing it is a mana issue at 22 land? What permanents are most problem some for your deck? Guessing big creatures mainly?


Anything with a big butt can keep the deck in check. And Conclave allows you to do more with your turns, which is important.

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Yeah, casting it for 0 is the upside because it's easy to flood the board.
And it hits everything, nasty blockers, PWs, etc even when your mana screwed.

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Yeah, casting it for 0 is the upside because it's easy to flood the board.
And it hits everything, nasty blockers, PWs, etc even when your mana screwed.

Drafted a copy a few minutes ago.
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So, I have been trying this deck, and it really is that good so far, and that is with me missing some rares.

Sweepers really hurt though. Pride helps, and thankfully I have only been hit with Fiery Cannonade and not Deafening Clarion twice. Racing to the Cities Blessing vs Izzet is pretty key (assuming you have Pride in hand).

I thought about Boros just for Taijic for some sweeper protection, but that just pulls too much consistency out of the deck.

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So, I have been trying this deck, and it really is that good so far, and that is with me missing some rares.

Sweepers really hurt though. Pride helps, and thankfully I have only been hit with Fiery Cannonade and not Deafening Clarion twice. Racing to the Cities Blessing vs Izzet is pretty key (assuming you have Pride in hand).

I thought about Boros just for Taijic for some sweeper protection, but that just pulls too much consistency out of the deck.

I really want to run something close to this but yah, the rares.
I have a for the moment alternative I posted a few minutes ago. Allows you to basically take a precon, tinker a lot and win. Working for me so far.

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Kryder, why no adanto vanguard with all the lifegain? Or the knight of grace?


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My build just keeps on winning. I literally can't remember the last time I lost with it. Even with those clunky slow draws, I've managed to pull off some amazing wins, even if only by the skin of my teeth.
According to MTG arena tool, it's at a 91% win-rate since the last alteration (85% since the first build).
Both are fine cards auunj, but there's no room left in my build for them.
Knight of grace especially is a shame, but since the loss of fatal push, people are using more red removal and the knight doesn't shine in that case.
The vanguard is a good beater, but can easily be brickwalled or chumped by tokens (making you have to take 4 damage to kill a 1/1 lifelinker isn't great).

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Well, your list has 4 History of Benalia, so I'm not shocked you're wrecking people.

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